#0: The Central Banks Agenda For The World Is Much Darker & Devious

The Central Banks Agenda For The World Is Much Darker & Devious: Louis Cammarosano

We're listening to these men discuss these matters as though we are outsiders. We accept something that they do not; we understand that ALL of THEIR money is THEIR money and that they are buying equities completely underscores our contention that “public” corporations are THEIR creatures too. Dave has identified the cancer, the increasing debt to revenue ratio. So who owns everything? If few own then economies, societies, civilizations die. We are already on the slippery slope back to times when life for the vast majority was “nasty, brutish and short.” Meanwhile those with plenty of THEIR money are buying equities and doing what we've already identified as entirely due to people having the worng perspective on wealth. Where's the income? It's going into economic black holes. We said that capitalism and socialism were the evil twin sisters. Capitalism is making money on money without work. Socialism is required else there is social revolution. Finally Louis describes the probable future and it's already fake right now and getting more fake. The media, the governments and the central banks are ALL discredited as unreliable and NOT authoritative. THEY do NOT work for US. We have been fooled by THEM since forever. 

Notice the physical metals as actual trade being talked about and the pleas to buy mining stock, etc. Notice that none of the wealth is tied to income. Notice that all they have working for them is inflation. And we see where that ends as in Venezuela. Whether it rains money or there's a drought, it's still all THEIR money. Listen to what Louis says about the distinction between markets and economies. Listen to Dave mention that all further government spending is accomplishing nothing. Expect negative growth as long as there is this much debt and you never allow real natural market forces to operate, such that most of these companies would be broke and broken down into smaller sized units that would be far more profitable. There's a lot of fairly good info here about the present system for all to see.

Dave asks whether there is in fact no hope? Listen to Louis's reply. He's describing what's happening. They do adapt but because THEIR system is designed to perform the way it does, it eventually breaks.

#0: Ron Paul Warns of Dollar Collapse 100% on 27 September 2016

Ron Paul Warns of Dollar Collapse 100% on 27 September 2016

 
We have to comment on this: First of all, NOWHERE ON THIS EXCHANGE IS THE DATE SEPTEMBER 2TH, 2016 EVER MENTIONED! As if that isn't weird enough, we also have this audio from an OLD Alex Jones program (2011?). On this program this fellow Lindsay Williams proclaims that about the time of the Libyan crisis, oil, which was priced high was predicted to go higher and as everyone knows, it has fallen dramatically since then. Does this discredit Williams? He said it would go up higher than it was then he said it would crash.  We don't care. He was certainly wrong about 2012 now wasn't he?  He was also wrong about oil and the Middle East.  Williams mentions the Moslem Brotherhood, etc. and all of that he predicted was WRONG!!!  Notice also how that Williams is so brazen/certain of his sources, etc.  We also notice that NOWHERE ON THIS OLD PROGRAM IS THE DATE SEPTEMBER 27TH, 2016 EVER MENTIONED!  We post these as contemporary news that is being spread (for whatever reason) to deflect from the real story that there isn't any real economy anywhere anymore. This is entirely due to the inevitable consequences of the designs of THEIR system. THEIR system is not and does not have to be the only game in town.

Then here, we have another Ron Paul appearance while he was still in Congress with Alex Jones.  The notes for this entry say,

"This collapse will be global and it will bring down not only the dollar but all other fiat currencies, as they are fundamentally no different. The collapse of currencies will lead to the collapse of ALL paper assets. The repercussions to this will have incredible results worldwide and each economists contend that The dollar collapse And The economic collapse will be on 27 September 2016 dollar collapse 2016,dollar collapse and ww3,dollar collapse "  This is without attribution.  

Someone said, "Ron Paul and Alex Jones: What a pair of bullshit artists. Leading people up the garden path with everything they say."

Again, there is no way anything proposed by this blog is leading anyone up any garden path.  We really have nothing personal against Jones or Paul except to say that they frankly just don't know and they have both taken the advice of those who really deserve a lot of qualifications as to whether to accept anything they have to say as worthwhile at all.  Look though some of what we've written in the last few posts.

Now here is a great recent version of the same message from Ron Paul.  Students, please, where did Dr. Paul's analysis slide right off the tracks?      

#57.3: Perspective – Precise Definition of Terms to Focus Attention and Improve Results

Voltaire was concerned that anyone presenting an argument first determine what they mean by the words they use. This is so much the case with money and financial subjects that tremendous lies and deceits can be covered up if most people can be convinced that fraudulent uses for common terms are permissible. Since to us they are NOT permissible we counter any and all usual claims to “financial education” as expectedly biased in favour of either the Keynesian or “Austrian” viewpoints, the two banker predefined and directed ends of the same dialectic; either THEIR credit or THEIR gold.

We see absolutely no point giving anything to any of them. Our ultimate purpose is to walk away from them, to leave their rigged and corrupt financial machine behind, to relinquish slavery to THEM for freedom for US, to discard deceit and irresponsibility for the necessity to assume our own responsibility and further to set up our own institutions and to administer and protect them ourselves and furthermore we have every right to organize and to do so!

Our institutions will be private (since to do what we propose through “public” auspices has been tried and failed for lack of HONOUR on the part of those placed in charge and STUPIDITY on our part for accepting it for so long). Every single everyman or everywoman member that uses our proposed institutions' services will be an owner. Ultimately we intend to renounce THEIR system, to walk out of it and away from it, to personally and socially shun any who were responsible for its crimes as affiliates of any of its more hated organizations, etc. etc.

The message was, “come out of her, my people” etc. it was not to remain and compromise with the peddlers of poison and death as well as of deceit and fraud. It's THEIR money, stupid! 

We aren't just making this post to cover matters neglected before this. We have been redefining terms to suit the purposes of this blog's proposal from the very beginning. To explain what we mean, we have usually specified a precise definition rather than allowing a broader one which is capable of elastic definition. Terms like wealth, income, work, labour and contract have precise meanings to us. It's equivalent to sharpening one's sword. Is buying into anything that doesn't promise a living income a very good deal? Sharper, cleaner terms and definitions usually enable better results.

Parenthetically, we get elastic definition and elastic value measurement from those with elastic ideas; those with little or no respect for facts, truth, honest measurement or honest justice (we have plenty of dishonest justice being practiced just at the moment). The elastics may even believe that any final truth can never be known and probably suppose that some idealistic philosopher gave them the permission to accept that everything and anything was relative, therefore there would be no way to ever pin them down, etc. Most of these ultimately also have to admit that they believe in nothing quite as firmly as might makes right, the imposition of FORCE upon the weak by the strong, etc. Darwin, etc. are usually brought in to justify their bullying, jeering and violence.

These elastics, be they people or ideas, have little or no integrity; you can't rely on them. Elastics who go with the flow, who don't care, who really do not care, are therefore willing to pass along lies they haven't bothered to investigate for themselves, such as that all wars are caused by religion (a DELIBERATE distraction and projection), when that historic assessment is actually a flat out lie. It's not to say religion isn't often to blame for other things, but wars take money and that has been the province of bankers for … well, since forever.

To underline my point here, since as “gold bugs” claim, gold has been and is deemed capable of functioning as money, then all wars down through history were literally about gold and silver too. All precious metals therefore is “blood money” as clearly also is silver, since Jesus was crucified for a price of 30 pieces of silver. We repeat: all precious metals has blood on it.

To suggest that war has any other cause but to enrich certain people who are either potentates or powers behind their thrones, is not to know history. The history of money and banking and the military industrial complex is all wrapped up in war, slavery, drugs, weapons, secrets, etc.

But the rest of us, the vast majority, want to produce things, make things, do things, provide for ourselves and our families, our children and grandchildren, our communities, our cultures, our nations. We know what SANITY is right away by recognizing its opposite without being told by some “expert” what the difference is. Likewise we like to go about our lives and businesses with the REASONABLE EXPECTATION of living under conditions of continuing peace. So who is it that stands against us?

We already know and lines are already being drawn. Who are you that work for them? Why work for them, other than for THEIR money? Why do you do it? Don't you care? Go back and consider what I've said before this. If you are doing the wrong thing, working for the wrong people for whatever reason, your first priority should be to get out of that situation before it takes your life. Or perhaps you are far enough down the road that you really don't care. Whatever the case, it's always finally up to you.

We spent a lot of time defining usury as only applicable to loans of money and that in every case the interest had to come from money that was not previously created/issued. The audio/visual should be a hissing sound of money being sucked out of the money supply by the financiers/capitalists. Now contrast this with a system that allows money lending, but demands that all the costs be paid up front from already existing money. You also remove forever any idea that it is possible to loan what you do not have and indebtedness is fundamentally reduced.

We likewise spent a lot of time describing wealth as ONLY that capable of providing an income. Therefore all sorts of things are not in fact wealth, although they are stuff, presumably assets, if they can be sold for what they originally cost (original purchase price), if not more (appreciation), rather than more likely falling in value (depreciation) and losing money, literally never to return. A community living in an area providing “a living” to live there, is hence properly a commonwealth, as a few US states have chosen to characterize themselves.

Money, literally “one eye,” is nothing more than a means to split barter. We recognize that all trade is ultimately barter, which means that no trade is settled with money alone, it has to be settled with labour or things. This is one of the great errors in accounting and understanding to this very day and can almost certainly be considered a possible means for general public deception. We have the “gold bug” mentality out there, which doesn't understand that gold and silver are things to be bartered with, not money. Furthermore we contend that other people, not you or I, determine whatever that piece of silver or gold will likely purchase: whoever or whatever that is becomes your third party to any transaction involving metals. If you do not control the purchasing power of the money, then it is not yours. It makes NO DIFFERENCE if you think your gold or silver should afford you to buy more or not, YOU DO NOT CONTROL IT, so therefore it is not yours.

While I'm at it, we have heard that there are attempts overseas to set up some “gold backed” currency, maybe even eventually resulting in paper instruments called “gold trade notes.” Now before going on, these are just going to be pieces of paper with more promises on them. Will they be rarer than all others and therefore some other purposely scarce commodity? No one trading using them will see any gold as gold does not circulate, unless it's barter. What would our proposed instruments say on them? They'd say,

bearer herewith tenders [whatever number of] international standard Value Units.

This would be on a V-Check (the same would appear on a longer running token we've called an Exchange Note when they become possible), an anonymous instrument among us – OUR cash - that transfers Value Units (Valuns), OUR money, between accounts, where all the money really resides anyway: Our instruments proclaim they are what is being passed around in trade; they are not promises to pay anything more than what they claim to be.

Money, as these instruments are widely recognized, their outward appearance in notes and coins, are pieces in an accounting machine; mere tokens. THEY REQUIRE NO INTRINSIC VALUE (I yelled that in case some “gold bugs” are deaf) and in fact (as E. C. Riegel said himself) monetary tokens should have as little value as possible; mere pieces of paper would do. Anytime commodities are presumed in any trade, THEY INFLUENCE THE TERMS OF THE BARTER (Also intentionally yelled at “gold bugs” so they'd put 2 and 2 together) and to whatever extent they influence the price of a trade, they are not money but commodities engaged in barter. I hope all of this is properly understood by everyone reading this, because if it is not, there are all kinds of ways of getting fooled, tricked, deceived, swindled … as well as lied to and cheated, that arise there from.

The “gold bug” advocates of what they call “sound” money, etc. all based on their misconceptions concerning money and commodities in settling final prices in trade, say they want this new “gold backed” trading currency to be based on a much higher price for an oz of gold in US dollars. Supposedly tons of gold are being bought by various central banks wherewith to base issuance of some contrived new currency that's “backed” by gold, etc. All this is supposedly done to keep trade going.

But this solution still requires trust. In the United States and other parts of the world for various lengths of time when our governments were least oppressive, we used to think we had sufficient trust. But we were deceived and have always been deceived, because at least in part, even the deceivers are deceived.

We probably know and could easily guess that producers in Asia have been stolen from by merchants selling things west along the old silk road or otherwise for going on centuries. People in the west did not know that people in Asia had been ripped off. They still don't. Some of the people in Asia don't know they're getting ripped off either, but many of their oldest families among them know. The people in the middle, the merchants, of course don't particularly want any of that widely known. But this is the 21^st century.

In any case, what of these gold reserves being supposedly stacked up in various places? How do we know, or should we even care, that these money issuers have what they claim? Since only paper will circulate, not gold, you see, it's still a matter of trust.

Whose money is really more honest? We say ours is based on a piece of purchasing power that had a TIME attached to it. We determined what that was with reference to their oldest brand of money, gold and any other of their brands of money capable of pricing gold. We just take the contemporary data, plug it in and it gives us today's fair trade equivalent. Today, with the recent bump up in precious metals, the proposed Valun is $2.63 (on 9/6/16). But prices in Valuns themselves have probably not moved much if at all. The daily Valun price tells us what THEIR money is worth to US. So right now their gold and other money buy slightly more against the Valun than they did a week ago. That was all through changes in THEIR money.

However, we quite honestly clench our mental teeth and present our mental fists to all of this “money backing” as frank bullshit! Intrinsic value was always a DELIBERATE misdirection intending to deceive, because the real issue was always whose fiat is it to issue money in the first place. Sorry Bill Still and others, we no longer believe and trust in any government or state to secure for us much of anything “in the public interest.” The system is noticeably wobbly now, it's crimes visible to more people every single day. Their latest STOLEN FIAT money will fail and be replaced with a “gold backed” one and none of us ever gets to even see the gold, so it may all be just as imaginary.

 
It doesn't matter. NONE of this money, “gold backed” or whatever is OUR money. It never was and never shall be and the usual people who have charge of the present mad machine have no special authority to do what they are doing, except for their own benefit. The present system is a con game. Building something like it, bitcoin, that isn't it, is still it. Our proposal is different from all the rest. 

Unlike any of THEIR money, any money in your account or accounts within a Valun system is yours. Either you issued it or you earned it. Since it doesn't belong to your local exchange or any financier, there is no need for any deposit insurance.

If you want to be involved with a financier you would buy either Credit contracts from them or perhaps we would allow limited partnership sales of these companies, much like stock, except there would be no exchange and you would be forbidden to sell ANY of these to anyone outside the VEN. They would in most cases be capable of receiving distributions in Valuns but nothing would be written in stone (electronically or on paper either) concerning any promises of return. We do not want to set loose some of the same forces within OUR system that always destroys wealth rather than promoting it.

In order to be a lender in the VEN, all Valuns lent must have been issued somewhere else as no financier gets the right to issue any money. Other members would usually loan the financier their money by buying debt instruments. A 100% reserve requirement means that when most of the money is lent out it will be absent from the accounts of the financier until it is due to be paid back. No Credit contract will ever be allowed to be pulled ahead of the dates specified. If the financial business can't pay its bills, it folds and other actions are taken to liquidate assets, settle debts, determine losses, etc. and life goes on. The Valun and its transaction clearing remains unaffected.

The usual terms for borrowing money in the proposed system will be to come up with the cost to borrow the money ahead of time, like a down payment on a house or vehicle or any other large capital object. If something is intended to be paid off within a year, it's a bill and will usually be divided into a number of monthly payments within a year. Larger loans are identified as a note for all those that extend out to seven years (2 to 7 years). Loans beyond 7 years would be a bond and include all loans involving real estate and extend out to 49 years, though they really usually wont extend out that long, unless we are taken seriously concerning our offer to finance the clean up of some huge man made or natural disaster. All these are classed as Credit contracts within the VEN and one increases one's reputation by completing them and since your credit contract reputation is yours, you will always be able to see it free of charge. There will probably be a market in these credit contracts, but we'll be watching such activity to make sure nothing contrary to the rules goes on.

You know the word economy contains the letters for the word money plus the two letters co, or together, co-money. An economy requires money. The reason people are out of work is money, not enough of it. The reason economies fail for too much money (a Weimar meltdown) as in Venezuela is ENTIRELY the result of stolen fiat – literally a flood of unbacked counterfeit money. What did we say backed OUR money? That's right, our work largely backs it. We could go far afield here and down several convenient rabbit holes, but we wont. It's not necessary. It matters WHERE money is issued as well as WHERE it eventually dies.

For instance, Riegel describes the net operating expenses required for a business based on multiples of the salaries of all employees including management, plus whatever is required to cover materials, supply or inventory, plus basic expenses (overhead). Taxes are usually part of overhead and passed on to the consumer and under a Valun system, taxes will always have to be taken in the “public” currencies required to service them. Taken together by the month, by the quarter (3 months), by the half (6 months) and by the year, one forms the basis for determining the possible wealth of the enterprise.

Since wealth must produce income, the valuation is always going to seek to determine the percentage of actual income after inventory and expenses. To determine what any business is worth in these terms, compute the known estimates in dollars, euros, pounds, yen, etc. and determine what the comparable values would be in proposed Valuns. Once determined, the prices in Valuns should change very little. You already have this to some extent in that proposed Valuns are at this point each equivalent to $2.64 (9/7/16). This is an exercise that we would encourage to be done NOW everywhere, particularly when the business is family owned and operated.

The transition is not far off in the developed world. It can't be withstood forever in Europe or America for very much longer. The proposal offers the only realistic solution out there that does not rely on or fundamentally require an internet to work:

We based the proposed Value Unit (Valun) on 1 oz Au BU (gold bullion) = $2,160 = V1,000 @ November 2, 2011. That piece of purchasing power that was $2.16 back then takes $2.64 to approximate today. We do not even have to have any gold or silver to start. That is THEIR money, not OURS since THEY control the value thereof in THEIR rigged markets.

In OUR markets 1 oz Au BU is going to be V1,000 or thereabout and 1 oz Ag BU (Silver bullion) is probably going to give you an initial V20 (V19.55) and might be higher or lower than that because that's what happens in any bimetalic system where the coins are supposed to circulate; one metal (gold) becomes the fixed point and the other (silver) gyrates up and down. This is but one more “sound” proof that basing a monetary unit on the daily prices of quantities of precious metals is like having a ruler that changes its measurements daily. You don't want that. You want to know that a Valun (V1) will buy a gallon of gas or 18 eggs or a gallon of milk or whatever, not just today but for a good five or ten years down the line and that the prices for things are going to reflect actual supplies and demands in each local area as more people adapt Valuns over manipulated commodity currencies.

David Burton 

dpbmss@mail.com

Current Hypothetical Value of a Hypothetical Value Unit

[9/1/16: Q: What's your current advisory for capital allocation?

 

A: I'm not in that business anymore though I always watch THEIR markets. I'd basically go back to what one of my mentors advised; expect inflation of at least 3% per year and you may see instances of depreciation that are even greater. ALL THEIR money will depreciate in inflation and there is debt attached to it.

Another distinction between our proposal and THEIRS; none of OUR money is ever borrowed into existence. OUR money would be issued and would not have to be paid back to anyone. It originates from US by OUR right of fiat. If you don't get it, read the rest of this blog. In our proposal we also get the first right to spend OUR money on what WE want. And furthermore, we know that money must be replenished or economies die, so therefore we will no longer be economically strangled or have our assets manipulated for the sake of idle capitalists making money on money without actually working for it (taking ANY time out of their lives to earn money). When we want to do more, we will do more and we will PAY OURSELVES through our Labour Contracts to bring more money into existence. When we work for it (how 90% of it will get issued), it is “backed” by our labour, by our work, that time out of our lives where we barter for our existence by use of money. As for the rest, the present system has been rigged, and is crooked and has STOLEN from humanity since forever so WE owe THEM … We'll let nature take its course. For the present and until we can get everyone up off their feet, we will allow the poor to issue OUR money up to limits established in each community. 

As for your present assets in whatever currency, they should be real, useful to you (capable of enhancing whatever your innate wealth might be) and you just might want a few things that may come in handy in the future; things you can barter with.]

[9/11/16: Just in case it wasn't clear before this, any comments I receive which are Anonymous will no longer be considered worthy of comment.]

#0: The Mother Of All Bubbles, Chris Martenson

The Mother Of All Bubbles, When The Debt Bubble Pops It Will Be Sudden And Rapid: Chris Martenson

We note with considerable interest and attention the differences between THEIR system and OUR proposed solution.  Also note what Chris calls capital, much of which we would call innate wealth.  His intention and ours is in exact congruence here.  We are fast approaching a time of resets.  This is another reason THIS BLOG is still up and running.  Many have come to the conclusion that they will never find a real job or a long lasting career and many have long since thrown in their talents and their destinies with those of THEIR system regardless of its horrific, poisonus or genocidal results.  There indeed is coming a day of reckoning when nature will take its course.  We had hoped that the solution advocated here would have taken on more interest.  But we admit that what we are selling is a hard sell.  What will the madmen (and a few madwomen too) might be doing is of importance as news, to stay informed, whatever we might decide to do whenever the "sudden and rapid" are upon us.     

#0: Rob Kirby - Will GLOBALISTS Use COLLAPSE to Implement NEW WORLD ORDER

Rob Kirby - Will GLOBALISTS Use COLLAPSE to Implement NEW WORLD ORDER

#0: RAMPING UP OF MILITARY ACTION - THE BANKSTERS ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME - KERRY CASSIDY & SIMON PARKES

9-1-16: RAMPING UP OF MILITARY ACTION - THE BANKSTERS ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME - KERRY CASSIDY & SIMON PARKES

(Perhaps the most reliable of the podcasts presented. Please understand that this is posted here as a news reference point, not for its opinions or some of its more outrageous content. Take with as many grains of salt as necessary. As some other researchers understand, there is much in common with the deep world of occult power and THEIR monetary power and of course all intelligence services whether public or private. For instance, Aleister Crowley was besides being an occultist, was a British spy.) 

2016-09-04 Simon Parkes QA1

(This podcast contains far more speculative material. Believe as it has been verified by other witnesses.)

Urgent updates from Simon regarding Europe...

(One of these podcasts was the first presented.) 

#0: Positive Money, A Review

Source

After writing the following, I had to say ahead of time something to the people behind Positive Money, that I am in sympathy with your intentions and your motives. I'd just far rather see you all observing what this blog describes and proposes and getting on with its implementation rather than continuing with what I can only regard as wasted effort. I therefore really do not wish to offend anyone personally, but rather encourage you to take on a far different perspective.  

That said, the first thing that you'll see when you get to their site is this.

SIGN OUR PETITION: CREATE MONEY FOR PEOPLE, NOT FINANCIAL MARKETS - Instead of creating £70bn of new money to flood financial markets, the Bank of England and the Treasury should spend it on things which support investment, jobs and people's incomes. Find out more.

Emphasis mine. Now students of this blog will already be able to see right away what's coming, but this is a review. So far, it cost me nothing to look and listen and evaluate and of course I recognize the same essential problems I have seen everywhere else; the proposed solution involves a private institution, the Bank of England (they claim it's public but come on, that's pure bunk! which means it's an intentional LIE in this case) and the Treasury, which belongs to a “state.” So then, the matter becomes a political action driven thing to get some people to do something for you that you should long since have grown up enough to know how to do for yourselves. What has already been said is that the US and the UK have essentially the same style money machines. So perhaps we should get that out of the way first: 

In both the US and the UK, the central banks issue the money and do so by stolen fiat from everyone that uses their money. They lend it to the governments as their “best credit risks” (taking in bonds in return – increasing the money supply in standard economic terms) and make the debt payable ultimately to the taxpayers under said governments. Whenever the central banks sell bonds they remove money from their machine. The bank charges interest on all of its issue and the money to pay the interest was never created so it must be filched from everyone's neighbor to pay it back. SINCE THE “AUSTRIANS” SEE NOTHING WRONG WITH TAKING INTEREST, THEY ARE EXPELLED FROM ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION! The government “public” debt is meant to be perpetual. The bankers don't care about naturalization at all, especially if the population is falling, because each per capita basis they get for each human being they can enroll somehow in paying taxes allows them to issue more money. The money taken in paying back interest is STOLEN from everyone using the system so the more people they enroll the bigger their slice gets. This is one reason why they promote immigration and stand against all attempts to curb it. 

Now, all this issued by stolen fiat money is spent into the economy by the governments as their right. Where did they get that right from? They claim from the people. They claim for “the public interest,” etc. You know what? More of us every day are beginning to doubt any of this is the truth. But we wont go down THAT rabbit hole, we'd rather tidy up a few more points before proceeding further. 

There are moves abroad these days to have a “gold backed” monetary system without changing anything else, another “Austrian” ploy. If you are allowing fractional reserve lending even using a “gold backed” so called “sound” money, so called “honest” money, tell me this: how can you tell that the lender had the money to lend in the first place? Right, you can't and you won't, because all that will be circulating are the same outward instances of money as circulate now, pieces of paper with other frauds printed on them, etc.

Then it is said in the news lately that various countries are buying lots and lots of gold so they can claim they have it in vaults and can float “backed,” “sound” or “honest” money therewith. Really folks? Are you going to fall for the same old LIE that has been afoot for at least four thousand years? It all started in Babylon, same deal. Oh, they used clay slabs back then instead of paper but it was just the same. They controlled the gold mining, slave trading, the drug trade (our word for pharmacy was from the Greek and translated as sorcery), weapons manufacturing, lending gold to make war, etc. and they still do. These are the wolves. They have also organization, which is something the sheep don't have. So “gold backing” and all the rest? Yeah, as we've said now many times, it's either THEIR credit or THEIR gold. It's all THEIR oldest scam to remain in power over the rest of us. 

It is said that all fiat currencies fail. It is never asked who gave them that fiat or why they are entitled to it. Then it is supposed that if we just substitute some finite substance that's rare and costly that we will solve everything. We've been there, done that. Gold backing still failed because the gold was used as an excuse to cover fraud and other crimes. 

These bankers know that what THEY have long done has been to STEAL what rightfully belongs to you, namely your right to issue your own money by your own fiat, and your self respect. They've actually managed to steal a lot more from you besides, but you'll never get the rest back without these, never. And THEY know it too. You can't get the one back without the other. So instead of begging some bank for it or some “state” for it, why don't you just figure it out and just do it yourselves as this blog's proposal insists must be done? 

Start by recognizing that anything other than whole barter (for places and societies where life was for the most part “nasty, brutish and short”) involves a medium of exchange we call money. We know what it looks like, at least its outward manifestations, and we know how it works; we buy things with it. Most do not know what lies behind money or anything about the financial apparatus that operates it (the machine). In total, a financial system is a machine. Positive Money had a strip of click it pull downs, one said How Money Works. It's basically a tutorial on THEIR machine. It's helpful perhaps, but knowing what YOUR machine must accomplish and getting THAT understood is much better and does not require interfacing with any bank or state. Then they had a tab which said, Our Proposals and this is where it gets interesting and has more to do with why this blog (THIS ONE RIGHT HERE THAT YOU ARE NOW READING) is still running. 

What We Need to Do 

We’ve spent the last six years researching the problems caused by the current debt-based monetary system and how to fix them. This is what we think needs to change to fix our broken money system: 

1. Take the power to create money away from the banks, and return it to a democratic transparent and accountable process 

2. Create money free of debt 

3. Put new money into the real economy rather than financial markets and property bubbles

Very well then, here's my answer to you. First of all I'll stack my 25 years' experience against your six to say that all your ideas as to how to fix THEIR machine are impossible and therefore not worth your time or energy. You're barking up the wrong tree. I suppose I was uniquely suited, picked out by my late British mentor, knowing full well that I will not dodge conflict easily, especially when I know I'm right and it matters. and it DOES matter.

1. You can't do anything about THEIR money at all. You need to issue your own.

2. You can create/issue money that is free of debt (interest payments - usury) and you do not need a state or bank to do it.

3. You can put your own money into the real economy and gradually as their money fades away assume more of the economy with your own money.

They go on to describe what they call a “sovereign money system” which involves a state and is little more than something like Lincoln's greenbacks. We reject this as a pipe dream. Let THEIR system and THEIR states crash and burn. We must have our own money NOW. Here's what they say: 

We think that the economy would be more stable and society better off if we transfer the power to create money from the banks back to the state, working in the public interest. 

Why don't YOU work in the public interest? Why have we all assumed that the state has the public interest in mind when clearly they do not and can not? The state's principal job is its survival, as it has no other real function. 

These ideas have been around since the 1930s, but we’ve done a lot of work to update them for the modern financial system. 

Scrub it all! It's BULLSHIT! You're looking backwards as usual. You have no voice and no say because you have NONE of THEIR money and even if you did, you do not know what their piratical agendas are because unlike them (wolves), you (sheep) probably have to work for a living. But no, more and more of us don't actually have to work because we are not allowed to work else their monopolies and profits would be disturbed and what are THEY doing? Certainly not anything productive. It's called capitalism, the making of money on money without work, and socialism is what THEY use to keep the people asleep. The two are linked together and portrayed to be enemy ideas in order to DELIBERATELY fool the public. What are THEY doing way up there above our heads? THEY don't have to work as THEY always have enough of THEIR money.

Work is that time out of your life to earn money for your livelihood. You are bartering for the things that make your life by working. Therefore your time has value based on any money. So why not earn your own as well as THEIRS? Better yet, why not work for your own money and encourage as many as you can to start doing the same? That way there would be more of it around and an economy would become possible. Meanwhile since you would have a better machine than theirs, based on a unit of money that will have more stable prices long term unlike all THEIRS which inflates and loses its value, then when THEIRS fails and THEY try and stick you with one more brand of THEIRS you can say, “NO, we have our own money and wont take yours.” By that time we will have won every other political battle worth considering. But let's go on and consider some other things they say:

When we rely on banks to create most of our money, then the only way of getting more money into the economy – and allowing it to grow – is to encourage people to go further into debt. But the financial crisis was caused by a huge build-up in private debt, so allowing that debt to increase even further could lead us into another financial crisis. What we need right now is to have a way of getting extra money into the economy, but without relying on households borrowing even more. This can happen if the Bank of England creates money and transfers it to the government to be spent into the real economy (rather than the financial or property markets). 

We all know this. We despise the use of “sustainable” as a psy-op device to con more people out of what they want. The only solution is going to be to give a lot of it up and get back to the beginning of things. The financial and property markets as they exist are THEIRS not yours. Best you all start thinking this way or you wont see it for what it is. THEY need to prop up these markets else they will find themselves toppled from their luxurious heights. We do intend that all who are not with us shall be shunned and this message is a social one, “come out of her, my people,” etc. Our proposal eliminates government and globalist corporate interference by disallowing them membership in our markets. We seek to cut the head off the snake rather than believing we can keep it and ourselves alive. It's a snake after all. 

(Report, 56 pages) This document presents a reform to the banking system that would remove the ability of banks to create money, in the form of bank deposits, when they make loans. It would transfer the ability to create new money exclusively to the state, creating what we have termed a ‘sovereign money’ system. 

Really? Such talent. All gone for not. You had all best read this blog and get with it! Finance and transaction clearing money exchange functions must be separated forever. If you don't do that, then you don't confine the risk to the system where it belongs, with those lending their money (finance). There is no way you can ever make that happen in THEIR machine. Never! Your “sovereign” solution is misplaced. It belongs with YOU not with some state!  

In the years following the financial crisis, the UK wasted £375bn on a failed scheme to stimulate the economy and end the recession. This was one of the biggest missed opportunities in history. 

How do you know they didn't play it exactly the way things have turned out; THEY purposely intended to RUIN and DESTROY Britain? You don't and they did. They have internationalist and globalist agendas which amount to dumbing down, de-culturalizing and de-naturalizing everything as much as possible. Their long term solution is genocide. They've said so in writing in many places, as much as 90% of us gone. It all begins and ends with THEIR money machine which is not yours and has never been yours and shall never be yours no matter what proposals, demands, recommendations, reports, reforms, etc. etc. you have in mind. It's all as unimportant to them as that last fly that flew by. I'm not at all kidding either. It's just how THEY think of it. “Ah some rumble among the sheep.” (sometimes they call us cattle instead) “What a great opportunity to make a killing.” Of course it's rendered in money, THEIR money and sometimes in blood, NOT THEIRS.

Everything else on this elaborate website screamed “they are getting outside sources of funding to keep this going.” Well maybe they are. I'd like to think that at least some of the presenters I saw in the videos were sincere in their efforts. They're just misguided that's all.

It's not merely my opinion, either. It's the truth, which makes all their efforts … useless.

I'd prefer they read this blog thoroughly and thoughtfully. I will debate them on anything they'd care to discuss. Be prepared to have a lot of it discarded as rubbish! What usually occurs in most of these debates is some kind of mental breakdown; theirs not mine, because they refuse to give up some idea they think is valuable, much as an infant refuses to relinquish a favourite toy. But baubles are mere toys when the people in the streets want work, bread, clothing, housing, civilization, etc. and see no reason for certain people to be living far better than the expanding ranks of the rest of the people, mostly growing poorer by the month, people everywhere around the world. This blog has the answer and YOUR proposals will lead NOWHERE because they are based on THEIR machine and THEIR institutions. You had better join forces with me and leave all that is THEIRS to its ultimate demise.

Unapologetically and defiantly yours!
(But not without some respect and desire for your understanding and future cooperation) 

David Burton

dpbmss@mail.com

PS: Here's something to think about in connection with all this:

Now, when one considers just whose money is in play here, one has a far better idea of the perspective this blog takes; we assume that the empire stage has long ago already begun, prior to the founding of the American Republic in fact and prior to the founding of the Bank of England in fact.  We need to seriously consider our own money and we'd best do it fairly soon as I presume time is short, which is to say we may be on the brink of extinction if we don't.   

[9/5/16: Q: So hold on, you're saying that your proposal is THE Positive Money? Well then, suppose you're right, I was curious what you meant by, “The only solution is going to be to give a lot of it up and get back to the beginning of things.”?

A: OK, let's start with “giving a lot of it up.” Let's start with whatever someone else thinks. Let's continue that with whatever anyone else thinks about you. Then let's consider whatever you think about yourself. Most people hold onto a lot of junk ideas, many of which do not even belong to them. If one would live better and really enjoy life, that time that you aren't working, then it sure makes the experience richer to be able to think better and more clearly as all your other senses become more alive. It's a matter of housecleaning the mind; you let go of outdated, outmoded, ridiculous, illusory, idealistic and counterproductive plans, concepts and ideas. You eliminate everything you can't do anything about. You in fact determine ways to cut loose from everything instead of attempting to help THEM any further than you have to. If you work for THEM you seek other employment and or you quit.

Then all the rest: No one is an island. We all know people. A good question to ask might be whether we would care to work alongside the people we know. On this blog, work has a precise definition because work is the chief way money is issued in our proposed system; the work done for it “backs” the money issued. OUR money is not issued as debt to any bank. It is likewise not issued by any government operating as a perpetual debt slave to any bank. OUR money is issued interest free and does not have to be paid back. OUR money is not only issued, it also dies naturally of asset depreciation, as all money does. Any time you have to sell something for less than you paid for it, some money DIES never to return. This largely ignored relationship between how money is born (issued) and how it dies (in depreciation) allows for some completely erroneous monetary systems to proliferate. Just because people talk about something incessantly, even for centuries, doesn't make it true. In many cases it was merely because they wished something to be so that would never be so, like trying to turn lead into gold. But they were aware of something with money even back then; since it is a river, a stream and not a body of water or some quantity, its flow matters and money must be replenished else economies literally die.

“The beginning of things” is simply all the people we each know personally. Our families and friends come first to mind. These people are all potential owners of your own monetary system. You simply agree to adopt the proposed international standard Value Unit as your unit of exchange and a few other very simple rules.

Digression (oh no!): Why THEIR money deserves a reward for holding it.

One difference between OUR money and THEIRS: I have often been asked whether I believe that THEIR money should bear interest to hold it or not. Most will not believe my answer knowing my strict stance against usury. It is this. ALL their money inflates: It loses its purchasing power over time. It does this through general dilution; backed mixed with unbacked money as Riegel described it, but in such proportions as to be impossible ever to re-balance.

Right now, and really since 2008, we are undergoing a worldwide deflation, because business activity has been and is slowing down. The reasons are that debt loads are at all time highs and there isn't much money circulating as all the honest charts genuinely show. Since THEIR money is always a commodity and bought and sold under those terms and since it always inflates regardless of temporary contrary price movements, it makes sense that people be paid for holding it. But right now, to do that would pop their entire bubble. We'll see whether THEY will be able to ride out the coming storm. Hint: they plan to crash THEIR system, ruin billions of people and then buy everything back for a pittance, and do what with all they have left? Oh, they want to be gods, don't you know.

End of digression (oh good!).

OUR money is based on a unit of purchasing power defined by a TIME. It does not change. We then take that unit and determine its comparable present value. We chose a transaction that allows us to determine what ALL THEIR money is worth to us in OUR money. We allow limited transfers of THEIR money into OUR money but not the other way around and probably only in limited amounts per member, because we do NOT want to alert any of THEIR tax officials. We will be prepared from the very onset of dealing with them in a pacific manner unless or until that becomes impossible. At that point we shall all know that the tyranny masquerading as a republic “with liberty and justice for all” will be fully revealed for all the public to see. It would be far better to have many millions of people sign up for THIS proposal rather than any political action drive attempted by Positive Money, etc.

We have stated a membership dues of one Valun per year for all A members. That's $2.67 right now. The equivalent amounts in all currencies are possible to calculate. Now simply multiply those by the number of people enrolled. That amounts to something to get at the very least V200 back for getting it off the ground. That's a lot of purchasing power. We will also take care of the indigent and the elderly, handicapped, etc. We can only open accounts for those 18 years and older at the moment but over time that too will change.

Most people are members of families, extended families, villages, towns, tribes, counties, states, provinces, etc. etc. Getting back to the beginning involves considering what must be retained when, not if, the present system implodes. We need people in every possible locality to start gathering interested people as potential co-owners of your own monetary system to run parallel with THEIRS until THEIRS fails. Understood?]